Sunday, March 16, 2014

10 Autopsy FAQs

It’s hard to believe that we are starting the 5th week of the autopsy rotation. I’ve come a long way since the first body I eviscerated. My hands and muscles have developed motor memory and I feel much more confident in my evisceration skills.  During these last few weeks our goal is to pick up speed (my personal record for complete evisceration and head dissection is about 2 hours); we know what to cut, it’s just a matter of not wasting time and second guessing ourselves.


For this post I thought I’d answer some frequently asked questions about the autopsy process:

What kinds of deaths require an autopsy?
  • Violent deaths (accidents, suicides, and homicides)
  • Suspicious deaths
  • Sudden and unexpected deaths
  • Unattended deaths (physician is not in attendance and can't sign the death certificate)
  • Deaths in custody
  • Consented hospital deaths

Is there some sort of permission for an autopsy to be done?
The first step of any autopsy is making sure that you have the right paperwork and consent for the body. Hospital autopsies require the consent of next of kin or the medical power of attorney.  However, most U.S. jurisdictions do not require consent for medicolegal autopsies.

What is the purpose of an autopsy?
  • For hospital cases: to confirm a suspected cause of death, for teaching purposes, or to assess effectiveness of a treatment
  • For medicolegal cases: to determine the cause and manner of death, collect trace evidence from the bodies in criminally related cases, and to positively identify a body

What are some examples of causes of death?
The cause of death is defined as “the underlying disease or injury that begins the pathophysiological train of events that culminates in the electrical silence of the heart and brain”1. Examples of cause of death include gunshot wound to the head, atherosclerotic coronary artery disease, carcinoma of the pancreas, pulmonary embolism, etc.

Are all autopsies completed the same way?
Most autopsies, on adults and children, are completed by making the “Y incision” - an incision from the left and right acromion process (shoulders), which meet at the xiphoid process of the sternum, and is continued down the torso to the pubic bone. After the Y incision is made, the skin and soft tissues are reflected and the chest plate is removed.  This allows for the organs to be viewed and subsequently removed. Typically the autopsy also consists of dissection of the head and neck. If there is suspected pathology (ex. deep vein thrombosis) or identifying material (ex. serial number on hip replacement hardware) in the limbs, a limb dissection can be completed as well.
However, in hospital autopsy cases the extent of the autopsy may be limited based on the next of kin’s request.  For example, the next of kin could request brain and lungs only, which means that we cannot eviscerate any of the other organs.  

Are all the cases like the ones I’ve seen on CSI shows?
In real life, autopsies take way longer than 10 minutes and the cause of death isn’t always clear-cut and doesn’t get stated with a background of dramatic music. In West Virginia the majority of the medical examiner cases are drug overdoses; these bodies look essentially “normal”. The autopsy doesn’t reveal much and the pathologist will have to wait for the toxicology screen to come back before determining cause of death.  Occasionally, you do see some weird and interesting things that may be television worthy.

How quickly does the autopsy get done?
The time it takes to complete an autopsy varies from case to case. The fastest I’ve seen one done has been one hour and the longest being around six hours.  I’d say on average they tend to take about 2-3 hours.

Doesn't the smell bother you?
Personally, the smell doesn’t bother me too much, but I also try not to consciously think about it.  Olfaction is a quickly adapting sense; our receptors adapt so that the system can respond to new odors despite old odors still being present.  You wouldn’t want your nose to be hung up on the smell of dead body and miss the smell of smoke from a nearby fire.  Therefore, the smell may get to you for a couple of seconds, but then you’ll be used to it and carry on as normal.

However, does opening the bowel smell pretty terrible? – yes (such a glamorous lifestyle- taking poop out of a bowel). And can you sometimes figure out the decedent’s last meal by smelling the stomach contents? – yes and it’s revolting. Luckily, in West Virginia, the decomposed bodies (which smell way worse than freshly deceased bodies) go to the OCME in Charleston, WV, so we typically don’t have to work with the really smelly ones.

What happens to the organs when they are removed? Do people get buried with them?
Once the organs are removed from the body, we section through them to look for any tumors, lesions, pathology, etc.  A piece from each organ is put in a save jar so that the pathologist is able to go back to them later if needed.  We also submit histologic sections from particular organs or any pathology present so that the pathologist can evaluate the organs on a microscopic level.  Whatever we don’t save or submit as histologic sections is packaged up with the body and gets buried/cremated with the decedent.

How many autopsies are you doing in a day? What do you do when there aren’t any autopsies to be done?
At WVUH’s autopsy suite there are two autopsy tables, so two cases can be worked on simultaneously.  The most autopsies we’ve ever done in a day (9am-5pm) was six.  On average I’d say we usually do 2-3 per day.  Whenever there aren’t autopsies we stay on-site and study or work on any autopsy reports until 2:30pm or a body comes in (whichever is first).



1Guidelines for Reports by Autopsy Pathologists, Vernard I. Adams, 2010.

Sunday, February 23, 2014

Tissue Bank and Autopsy Rotations

Life has been pretty busy since I finished my last rotation and started the next one. I’ve moved back to Morgantown for the next 6 weeks, created a CV and started looking for jobs, prepared a 30 minute presentation for this Friday, and our monthly test is coming up so I’ve been increasing my study time.

Tissue Bank Rotation:
From February 10-14th I was at the University of Pittsburgh HSC Tissue Bank (located in UPMC Shadyside Hospital).  Tissue banks serve as reservoirs of tissue/samples for researchers to use. These samples can come in the form of tissues from certain organs, tumor cells, blood, etc.  A researcher may want to use these samples to test out new therapies, perform molecular studies, or track specific data.

The employees of the tissue bank act as “honest brokers” between the researcher and the patient/sample collected. They de-identify the patient’s tissue and assign it an anonymous number; therefore the researcher never has patient information on the tissue that they’re working on.

A researcher can’t just take any and every tissue they want; they have to have approval from the Institutional Review Board (IRB) first.  The IRB is a committee that monitors biomedical and behavioral research involving humans and serves to protect patient rights and minimize risk. In addition to IRB approval, some sample types (ex-blood) require consent from the patient as well.  Therefore the patient can be reassured that their diagnosis and care comes before any research.

How does all this apply to Pathologists’ Assistants? Pathologists' Assisstants can work for and manage tissue banks. Also it’s great to have knowledge of tissue banking procedures so that when working in the surgical gross room, you will know what to do with a bankable specimen if it comes across your grossing bench.

This is a really simplistic overview, but I hope it gives you an understanding of what the tissue bank entails!


WVUH Autopsy Rotation:

This past week I started my new rotation at the WVUH autopsy suite. It wasn’t too busy this week, which was great because it allowed myself and the other student to dive right in and start eviscerating.  It has been a big change going from surgical pathology to autopsy pathology. Not everything has to be “museum perfect” for autopsy pathology.  I don’t know how many times I was told this week to stop using the surgeon tools and pick up the long butcher knife (don’t worry I’m not hacking away at things as much as this statement makes it seem).  I’m slowly but surely getting a little less awkward with the tools, recovering my anatomy knowledge, and becoming more comfortable with eviscerating.  

Sunday, February 9, 2014

Last Week at St. Clair

On Friday I said goodbye to my first clinical rotation site. Turning in my badge was a bittersweet moment. On the one hand I had completed my FIRST EVER clinical rotation, but on the other I had become so comfortable at St. Clair and really enjoyed going to work each day and loved working with all the employees. I've never felt so accomplished, yet sad at the same time. 

If I had to give one word to sum up my grossing experience at St. Clair it would be "hysterectomy".  I would have never thought that I would have grossed 14 hysterectomy specimens by the end of my first five weeks. It even got to the point where one of the Pathologists walked through the lab one day and said "Nicole, every time I come in here you have a uterus at your bench!" Don't get me wrong, I was able to gross plenty of other specimens as well, but each day didn't feel complete unless there was a uterus involved. 

I am so appreciative that they let me have a try at a variety of specimens, including the bigger, more complex ones. I was able to see and learn a lot in my first five weeks (but still have a lot more to see) and I definitely have gotten the hang of dictating. It was an awesome feeling every time I was able to gross a specimen without referencing a textbook or past dictations. This rotation definitely gave me the confidence I needed and was an awesome foundation to the start of my career as a PA. I couldn't have asked for a better first rotation!


This next week I'll be at UPMC Shadyside Tissue Bank - more to follow!

Saturday, February 1, 2014

Getting a Workout at Work (Weeks 2-4 at St. Clair)

I cannot believe that on Monday I will be starting my fifth week of clinical rotations! Having been in a classroom setting for the past 18 years of my life, I thought I would have a much harder time adjusting to life outside the classroom.  But I absolutely love going to work each day and it feels so rewarding to see that all the hard work of the past year is finally paying off.


In the past couple of weeks I have been progressing to grossing bigger, more complex specimens (hysterectomies, prostates, colons, thyroids, and even a twin placenta). It's funny how deathly afraid I was of receiving these specimens while I was learning about them in textbooks. But when you actually have them on your grossing bench and work out a systematic approach, they're pretty painless.  I still feel that I am slow at grossing and I obviously have plenty more specimens to experience, but I’m starting to gain much more confidence in my work. 

I also grossed my first femoral head (the portion of bone that is removed during a hip replacement surgery) specimen. When dealing with such dense bone specimens you can’t just cut through them with a regular scalpel; you have to pull out the bone saw. Now I’ve cut down a few Christmas trees in my day, but I had no idea how difficult (and noisy) it would be to cut through bone. I was pathetically red-faced and sweaty by the time I had finished cutting my perfect section. Who knew that as a PA you’d get an arm work out while at work – I definitely need to start doing more push ups.

Example of a femoral head specimen